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averygoodun42 ([personal profile] averygoodun42) wrote2012-04-18 02:25 pm
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Razzum frazzum

Page is suspended for tomorrow. Picked on the same kid, and so this is deemed bullying.

Stupid, stupid Page!!!

On the plus side, we now have a group conference scheduled with everyone important at the school. I wonder if I should let the psychologist in on that now or at our meeting next week?

Did I mention what a shit job parenting is?

[identity profile] mundungus42.livejournal.com 2012-04-18 06:32 pm (UTC)(link)
GAH! *hugs you tightly*

[identity profile] averygoodun.livejournal.com 2012-04-18 09:21 pm (UTC)(link)
*clings*

[identity profile] dickgloucester.livejournal.com 2012-04-18 07:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Or the same kid provoked him, knowing he could get away with it scot-free.

*hugs you*

[identity profile] juniperus.livejournal.com 2012-04-18 07:35 pm (UTC)(link)
I just had the same thought, myself.

It's easy for the neurotypical kids to figure out how to poke at classmates both non-neurotypical and just highly strung and emotionally easy to manipulate. TOO easy, and too easy for some administrators to blame it all on the kid who loses his/her sh*t (especially if they can't effectively advocate for themselves when asked what happened!)

[identity profile] averygoodun.livejournal.com 2012-04-18 08:02 pm (UTC)(link)
That's why I'm calling Page stupid. I told him, explicitly, to stay away from that kid.

*hugs back*

[identity profile] juniperus.livejournal.com 2012-04-18 07:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Let the psych in on it, now, in case there is information you need.

How is 'picked on' defined in this case, if I might? Physical alternation? Called them a goober and told them their pencil was ugly? I'm continually amazed at what inconsistencies I see, here--take notes, write down histories, and don't let them do more to Page than appropriate. Seriously - I've seen too much weirdness not to be hypervigilant.

[identity profile] averygoodun.livejournal.com 2012-04-18 08:09 pm (UTC)(link)
"Picked on" is Page taking hold of T's arm after T said something Page disagreed with and using it to pretend hit T. T said he was "scared" Page was actually going to hit him (with his own hand). This is something Page does to me on occasion that I have the strength to fight (usually he tries to make me hit him); I know Page is playing around, but at the same time, I obviously have yet to impress on him how the word No means NO.

*tries not to judge T's parents for raising a wimp/bully*

Under state law, they have to suspend Page for bullying, and I don't see how they can get around that. And, quite frankly, I think Page deserves it for being so stupid as to even play with T after being told, by me, to stay the fuck away from him. (Only I said so without swearing).

[identity profile] juniperus.livejournal.com 2012-04-18 08:27 pm (UTC)(link)
It's not state law that is in question, IMO, it's their defining the incident as bullying. Did T seek Page out, or did Page seek T out? If it's the former, and then there was an altercation I think it's ridiculous to call it bullying (and I think you have a right to complain and challenge their ruling of the incident). Had Page sought T out, then (whether or not I wonder what the bloody hell the adults were doing to let their interaction occur at all, if this is their stance) I can see how they might try to give it a bullying label as a repeat incident after both parties were (assuming both kids WERE told to stay away, and if T wasn't, I think you, again, have grounds to complain) told under no uncertain terms to avoid one another.

This isn't a case of 'our hands are tied, poor us' for the school, in other words - especially when dealing with kids at this age.

[identity profile] averygoodun.livejournal.com 2012-04-20 11:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Listening to Page's take on the matter, it was his bad all the way. I don't think it was bullying, but complaints had been lodged prior to that event, and, in this case, the admins' hands are tied.

Ach well. Fortunately Page was well-behaved today. So he has his legos for Spring Break. *wipes brow*

[identity profile] sbrande.livejournal.com 2012-04-18 08:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Believe me babe I've been there (still am) done that, and got two kids to prove it. It is shit, but it has it's rewards too.

Loves you, and hang in there, Sonia :)

[identity profile] averygoodun.livejournal.com 2012-04-20 11:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, it does have its rewards. *hugs*

You hang in there, too!

[identity profile] lifeasanamazon.livejournal.com 2012-04-18 08:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Hang in there. You're doing all you can.

It's so hard at times.

[identity profile] averygoodun.livejournal.com 2012-04-20 11:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks. I hope I am.

[identity profile] junewilliams7.livejournal.com 2012-04-18 09:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Poor Page. He must be so frustrated at the real bully. *hugs*

[identity profile] averygoodun.livejournal.com 2012-04-20 11:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, I don't know that there really was any bullying on either side. Honestly, I think, in this instance, Page just forgot that other people don't like someone else taking control of their body parts. Or didn't know that that applies to kids as well as moms. For such a smart kid, he is really, really dense where interpersonal boundaries are concerned.

[identity profile] blueartemis07.livejournal.com 2012-04-19 01:57 am (UTC)(link)
~hugs you hard~ Poor you and poor Page, and I hope Page learns to make better choices.

[identity profile] averygoodun.livejournal.com 2012-04-20 11:56 pm (UTC)(link)
~hugs back~ Thanks. I sure hope that, too. Fortunately, I think this psychologist will be good for all of us.

*nods*

(Anonymous) 2012-04-19 04:03 am (UTC)(link)
Hugs to both of you. Love

[identity profile] averygoodun.livejournal.com 2012-04-20 11:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks, Mum. Hugs back at ya.

[identity profile] firefly124.livejournal.com 2012-04-19 04:03 am (UTC)(link)
Oh no. :-(

Best luck with the conference. If you want the psychologist to attend or at least contribute in some way, I'd suggest letting him know sooner rather than later.

[identity profile] averygoodun.livejournal.com 2012-04-20 11:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, yeah. :-(

Thanks. We called the psychologist and she's busy with another client then, but gave us a general idea of what to ask/say.
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[identity profile] septentrion1970.livejournal.com 2012-04-19 04:06 am (UTC)(link)
oh no! You have my deepest sympathy.

[identity profile] averygoodun.livejournal.com 2012-04-20 11:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you!

[identity profile] ashfae.livejournal.com 2012-04-19 02:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaigh. =( *hugs*

[identity profile] averygoodun.livejournal.com 2012-04-21 12:00 am (UTC)(link)
At least this time it's not quite the wail-fest the first suspension was. This time I'm just plain mad. *shrugs*

*hugs back*

(There are rewards to parenting, despite the shittiness of the job. And the majority of kids are actually neurotypical, which helps.)